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Aloy ([personal profile] not_of_the_nora) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh_ooc2022-11-15 10:12 pm

Where To Go Next With Fandom High, Poll The Second

Hello, Fandom!

During the summer, we polled you on how to proceed with the game, as the amount of students steadily dwindles every year. This semester, we’ve measured about 2 to 5 students per class - much less than the 20 or more that led us to impose caps on classes, once upon a time.

We’ve spent the past few months thinking about options, taking your feedback into account, and as promised, we’re now coming to you with clearer plans. We have currently narrowed down options to two, which we would like to put up to a vote (as well as a trusty 'no, please keep things the way they are' option, in case opinions have shifted).

Fandom University (Which Is Really Fandom Community College But Who Wants To Attend The FCC?)


The way we see it, the shift to a community college model seems most obvious for the game. It allows us great flexibility: adults can choose to enroll for full years or just for a class, younger characters can take classes for extra credit as we work on a transition, and while we do plan to feature actual 2- to 4-year programs where characters can get handwavey credit for taking classes, adults who want to bum around university for the entirety of their 10+ year time at Fandom Island are able to do so, provided they have a job.

However, we also understand that the game has featured teenage students for its entire run, and people are still attached to playing them. As such, we would like to implement either a full community college for characters aged 16-and-up, or community college for 18-and-up with an attached 2-year high school program. The high school calendar would be slightly less packed than we’re used to for regular FH in the second scenario, but it would mean we still maintain a separate student dorms and some (but fewer) high school classes.

We may poll you guys a few more times during the shift if it happens, just to make sure everyone agrees on the details. This is a big change, and the last thing we want to do is implement something you haven’t had any say in.

What would a vote for either of the two college options mean?


Obviously we wouldn’t be springing major changes on you overnight. If either college option gets the highest vote margin - no run-off shenanigans here - we’ll start by closing applications to freshman students in the summer of 2023 as we begin a transition to a two-year high school program (and possibly no high school at all, depending on this poll). We will accept sophomore applications until fall semester. If the decision is made to end the high school all together, we'll propose a path to slowly phase out juniors and seniors at this point, probably at a clip of one change a year.

Fandom University would then open in the fall of 2023, and be open to all characters over the decided-upon age cutoff. We would also open applications for college teachers and for characters who are specifically there to attend a 2- or 4-year program at the college: First-years, Second-years, Third-years and Fourth-years.

These characters will be held to the same activity requirements as current FH students, namely sign-ins in two classes per week. There will be handwavy daycare available; we will poll at a later point whether it makes sense to make this PC-run or not.

We’ll then evaluate the transition through another poll/brainstorm in Summer of 2024, and make adjustments where needed. We would also be looking at some details about how the game operates, such as whether there’s a necessity to implement NPC students, at that time.

Poll!



Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: Just the Poll Creator, participants: 18

Fandom High should become...

a community college for all characters 16-and-up
12 (66.7%)

a community college for 18-and-up with a 2-year high school program attached
6 (33.3%)

... nothing, it should stay itself.
0 (0.0%)



The comments are open for any questions or commentary you might have. We also remain open to any suggested tweaks you might have for the format.

(Sorry, folks, I mucked up the poll the first time around.)
betterthanaplan: (two thumbs!)

[personal profile] betterthanaplan 2022-11-15 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I like how "FU" was determined to definitely be a better acronym than "FCC".
needsaparrot: (zzz - kverse - xand - thinky)

[personal profile] needsaparrot 2022-11-15 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"Determined" implies that there was ever any question.
betterthanaplan: (teen -- pointing)

[personal profile] betterthanaplan 2022-11-15 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what fair
anomaly_research_nerd: (cute face)

[personal profile] anomaly_research_nerd 2022-11-15 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean you HAVE met most of us, right? FU is far superior and far more appropriate for this crew!
stykera: (heyyy)

[personal profile] stykera 2022-11-15 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
TBH I would have expected more from you. By which I mean a more ridiculous acronym (HI I MISS YOU).
needsaparrot: (Default)

[personal profile] needsaparrot 2022-11-16 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
(That was me, and wasn't meant to be a drive-by, but upon preparing to repost, I thought maybe it should become one.)
hasaknightjob: Oscar Isaac with a puppy (OOC Puppy)

[personal profile] hasaknightjob 2022-11-16 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
(Hi I miss you too!)
needsaparrot: (zzz - kverse - xand - w/willow: worried)

[personal profile] needsaparrot 2022-11-18 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I miss you tooooooo. (Icon not indicative of mood, only of the fact that all my other with-Willow icons are locked at the moment.)
two_idiots_one_body: (amused)

[personal profile] two_idiots_one_body 2022-11-17 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think we now need to have them have sports teams and home games purely for the purpose of having the students and teachers yell "FU!" at the opposing team.
wildgalegirl: (Default)

[personal profile] wildgalegirl 2022-11-16 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Let me just say that I picked a choice, but really I'm fine with either.
anomaly_research_nerd: (Default)

[personal profile] anomaly_research_nerd 2022-11-16 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
same... as long as Fandom isn't totally disappearing I am good with whatever version it morphs into in the end!
drumsticksandd20s: (Default)

[personal profile] drumsticksandd20s 2022-11-16 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
I am also fine with either option, though as someone who actually was in college at 16 I am a bit personally attached to that one. Y'know. Full disclosure and all.
wildgalegirl: (Default)

[personal profile] wildgalegirl 2022-11-16 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I was too!
defenderofdesmoines: (starlight - girls get it done)

[personal profile] defenderofdesmoines 2022-11-16 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey hey! It's early, I'm tired, the world is nuts and my brain is like a sieve so I just want to double-check that I understand:

Option 1: Everyone attends the same classes like with summer workshops, regardless of age, and no students live in the dorms (everyone lives in town)

Option 2: Students 16-18 attend their junior/senior year of high school rather than the university program, have separate HS classes, and live in the dorms until they graduate like with the current system.

Yes? Profit?
my_own_advocate: (lucifer - cosplaying as a douchebro)

[personal profile] my_own_advocate 2022-11-16 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, though we'll probably iron out some extra living arrangement possibilities for college students a little further down the line either way, once it's clearer what those characters will need (we already have the odd housing shortage in town).

Note that since FU will have 2/4-year programs people can app into, what we do with graduation (will they be separate, or do FH and FU share grad, etc) is something we'd be polling later down the line along with some other details.
defenderofdesmoines: (annie - boom!)

[personal profile] defenderofdesmoines 2022-11-16 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that makes sense! So, in terms of the first option where it's all FU and no FH -- you would app an adult or late teen character specifically into a 2 or 4-year program, and determine as much at the time of apping?

Do we anticipate wiggle room on that, ie, "I apped Annie as a two year student, but I love her now so I want her to continue all four years," and vice versa? (I realize this might be getting ahead of ourselves a little and it is totally okay if the answer here is "TBD" lol.)

Thank you for clarifying!
my_own_advocate: (lucifer - shirtless grin)

[personal profile] my_own_advocate 2022-11-16 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep! The idea would be that you can app either a townie who can take classes from time to time, a teacher at FU, or a college student in one of the programs (who could transition to a townie later).

We haven't really discussed wiggle room yet, so I can't give you any definitive answers, besides to say we've purposefully loosened restrictions on transitioning characters from one category to another over the years and I can't immediately see reasons for us to get very strict about it in the future.
defenderofdesmoines: (zpecial - wee: dance!)

[personal profile] defenderofdesmoines 2022-11-16 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally makes sense! And yeah, that's what I figured re: future strictness but thank you for answering what you could!