Least Favorite Moments!

[canadianpopstar.livejournal.com]

So, we did our favorite moments from our fandoms. But what about least favorite?

Least favorite canon moments
Give us your top five, if you can come up with that many, moments that make you cringe in your fandom. Whether it's bad writing, or character massacre, or just some beautifully executed but OMG PAINFUL scenes, rant about your canon here! Everyone's got a story where they bitch out the producers of their favorites. Give us yours.

Please assume spoilers for all these fandoms, but as a courtesy to everyone else, don't discuss anything that had its finale like, last night or anything. :)

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[saltandammo.livejournal.com]

Least favourite Dean canon moment?

Oh, I'd have to say the finale this season watching him get ripped to shreds by invisible hellhounds while Sam watches screaming.

*whimper*

Kripke's trying to kill us.

[mparkerceo.livejournal.com]

*gives chockie?* Wah!

[canadianpopstar.livejournal.com]

1. Ted asks Robin to get rid of her dogs...and she DOES IT.
So in the season 2 episode Stuff, Ted asks his then-girlfriend Robin to send away her five dogs because they make him insecure thanks to the fact that they're all from ex-boyfriends. So, because they decide to compromise and he's gotten rid of his things from exes, she sends them to her aunt upstate. EXCEPT HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET RID OF HIS STUFF. I think they were just looking for a way to get rid of the dogs because it was a hassle to have them on set, but omg. It just makes me kind of hate Ted for asking her, and hate Robin for giving in.

2. Britney Spears is Barney's new girlfriend.
We all know Britney was on HIMYM earlier this season, and then last week in order to boost ratings and help her career. But the acting is awful (http://youtube.com/watch?v=dfioaUfZK8I). LIKE SO BAD.

3. Any time Robin makes a joke that no one else laughs at, because she's Canadian.
It's a good gag, but it's so cringey to watch her all "UM, WHY DON'T YOU GET IT?"

4. The Boys' Hair.
It's not a moment, but TED AND MARSHALL CUT YOUR HAIR. Barney, you look fine as always.

5. The joke they cut from the pilot.
After Ted tells Robin he loves her after he comes to her apartment in the middle of the night after having just met her, and she's all "UM, BYE," he asks her how to get to the F Train.

And supposedly, in the script, she initially slapped him. Because hee, the F TRAIN.

[baskiceball.livejournal.com]

Marshall's season three hair makes me weep. A LOT.

[spring-lost.livejournal.com]

1) Why, Marvel. (http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/July2008/full/cable5.jpg) WHY?

At this point, I feel like someone should just shoot my boy and put him out of his misery.

2) Oh, we all knew it was coming. The breakup. Cable was too manipulative, Deadpool was too... Deadpool, and we were all just counting the days until Deadpool wasn't letting Cable play the bossman anymore and took off.

Cue Civil War, an awesomely executed complete rip-to-pieces of anyone who loved Cable & Deadpool together. It kicked all of our asses, we cursed the damned Marvel fools who'd ever okayed this Civil War thing to begin with, but we all knew it was going to happen.

And then Cable had to go and be an idiot and fuck with Deadpool's head to get him back.

And then they dun broke up for good.

And Fabian ended it on this (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/2781845.html#cutid1).

"For two people who say they don't need each other, we do a lot of stupid things to try and stay together."

And then we got six months of breakup. And we all cried. And called Cable A COMPLETE FUCKING MORON and threw shit at Deadpool.

3) On the other end of the scale? Cable's death, and at the same time Cable & Deadpool's first reunion after... *points up*. It is all the fault of freaking Marvel X-Men editorial messing with my comic, which is RAR, and there were two versions of this-- one in the flagship X-Men title, and one in C&DP.

Guess which one of those sucked donkey balls (but will go down in history). Guess which one of those made me cry (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3697391.html#cutid3) for the unfairness of it all.

(Yes, my two only in-story least favorite moments also rank amongst my favorites. My comic is/was evil like that)

4) THEY CANCELLED MY COMIC. After messing with it so that Cable couldn't feature much, editorial had to go and kill it. Kill. It.

5) Most of Cable's stint on X-Men. Because it was pointless, for the most part, the writer couldn't get the basics of Cable's new powers down (no, he can't bodyslide without Deadpool) and it ended in the death of my comic. Yes, I'm vindictive. And also? That pointless X-Force mini they squeezed in during the middle of the series.

LIEFELD. We left the 90s. Nobody should have to deal with Liefeld.

[all4thewookiees.livejournal.com]

I kind of love the baby's battle harness. I haven't had a laugh like that in a while.

[goodgirlmeg.livejournal.com]

1. MEG DIES.
What the hell, canon? I mean, what the hell? Let's take the nicest person on the show and KILL HER.

2. The whole coma baby thing and Duncan running to Mexico
I mean, I was glad Duncan was gone but that whole storyline was ridiculous.

3. Logan and Veronica's 12928476th break up
Which would be around the time Logan slept with Madison.

4. Lamb dying
Just because it came out of nowhere. And that guy from 21 Jump Street was the one to kill him. Lame.

5. Dick getting character development during the LAST TWO EPISODES of the show
His dad came back and Ryan Hansen was doing great with the dramatic scenes and they cancel the show! WHY?

[canadianpopstar.livejournal.com]

The whole Meg thing was SO RIDICULOUS.

Also, I used to love Veronica and Logan. And then they broke them up and got them back together more times than Ross and Rachel. Good lord omg.

[auroryborealis.livejournal.com]

1. RORY STEALS A YACHT.
Yeah. Rory fucking Gilmore STOLE A YACHT. Because her boss/boyfriend's dad told her he didn't think she was reporter material.

2. AND THEN SHE DROPS OUT OF COLLEGE.
YEAH, YOU HEARD ME. SAME REASON.

3. AND BREAKS OFF ALL CONTACT WITH HER MOTHER AND MOVES IN WITH HER GRANDPARENTS.
WTF LORELAI LEIGH, WTF.

4. Also, Lorelai sleeps with Christopher because Luke's started acting weird.
So Lor and Luke, the big OTP of the show, finally get engaged the same night Rory decides to be an idiot, see above. And Luke starts acting weird, see below. And Lorelai is all ULTIMATUM TIME, WE GET MARRIED NOW OR NOT AT ALL. And then she goes off and sleeps with Rory's biological father. AND THEN THEY GET MARRIED IN PARIS. WHAT.

5. LUKE HAS A SEKRIT DAUGHTER.
Who is like Rory, redux, with the nerdiness and all. GOD.

[neurotic-witch.livejournal.com]

You've pretty much just outlined every reason I stopped watching Gilmore Girls.

They butchered every single character in the last two and a half seasons.

[new-to-liirness.livejournal.com]

1. Benghda Bridge - Liir finally found something he was good at! He was a favorite officer of his CO. He enjoyed his work! He found a place! ...and then it turned out they really were all bastards. And oh, so is HE because he actually took those orders and burned a bridge at both ends because silly him, he thought 'no, this has to be some sort of stunt; they can't be so heartless as to not send people to save them after this 'scare''. But no. No, they totally are. And in fact, the resulting rebellion is just an excuse to start using face-peeling dragons. GOODY.

2. Dorothy Leaves Him - He just got left at this cafe, told to wait since they'd all be 'right back' from their meeting with the Wizard annnnd, oh, a few MONTHS after the Scarecrow finally comes by to tell him what's what.

3. Fiyero's Death - ...that kills me. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

4. The Fishwell - there is nothing that's more fun than being left by your older half-brother to die in a freezing fishwell for three days an NO ONE NOTICES YOU'RE GONE? Oh, and the kicker? When they finally get him out and save his life? "Where's his bed? He needs to rest." "Uh." "...he doesn't have a bed?" "Usually, he takes the floor in my room. I'd let him in the bed but he's fat and then my dollies don't fit." *facepalm facepalm facepalm*

5. The Ending of Son of a Witch or the lack thereof - Nothing pisses me off more than that Maguire left him alone. He tried, and he actually ACCOMPLISHED something despite having plenty against him and then Maguire leaves him alone. No Trism. No Candle. Just left alone with the green baby. And the fact that we got no resolution so that Maguire could bobble about with a bunch of OTHER stuff? Ugh. I love the characters of this book but the lack of ending makes me see red.

5.5

[new-to-liirness.livejournal.com]

Because this needed to be added.

5.5 - Liir's Daughters Conception

COMA. CANDLE HAD SEX WITH HIM WHILE HE WAS IN A COMA. THE BOY HAD HIS CHERRY POPPED WHILE HE WAS OUT OF HIS BODY. W. T. F.

[suit-of-sables.livejournal.com]

1-5. Ellen.

She IS my least favorite moments in canon. Because she continually acts like a spoiled bitch, betrays Geoffrey left and right, and it's for some reason his fault. Why he was faithful to her, why he loves her, why any of it is something I ask over and over and over again and I'm convinced it's because she was played by Paul Gross's wife.

[mparkerceo.livejournal.com]

Not just me? *sigh*

I really started loathing her after she slept with her brother-in-law, but I never really saw whatever sparkle Geoffrey saw in her prior to that, either.

[izzyalienqueen.livejournal.com]

1. Alex dies - It came completely from left field and broke poor Isabel's heart

2. Season 3 - I'm going to list a few key points. But the overall season as a whole sucks. The fans went through all that effort to get it renewed. It really wasn't worth it.

3. The short, dark hair (http://www.stripedwall.com/television/Roswell/RoswellS3/Roswell3x01/301BUSTED_000352.jpg) - It looked terrible and was a stupid decision on the part of the producers.

4. WTF Married? - Alex was dead approximately four months but Isabel had moved on and found the guy she wanted to marry? And she did? Even though she hadn't told him a thing about the whole alien mess. So stupid. Nevermind the fact that she was only just 18.

5. Literally riding off into the sunset at the end of the series finale - Yes, the government just tried to kill us. So let's go on happy adventures like some sort of alien themed Scooby Gang, complete with an antique VW Bus.

[crazypilotman.livejournal.com]

Oh man. There are several cheesy things that are cringe worthy about the A-Team. And that's before you get into the apparent lack of familiarity with something called 'continuity' on the writers' part. *twitch*

But. In the midst of season four, there's an episode titled 'Uncle Buckle Up'. The Single Worst Episode Of The Entire Show. What in the hell were these people thinking?? The whole thing centers on a drug smuggling operation that uses cute little stuffed animals from a kids' TV show to bring their goodies in. Uh-huh. Like whatever happened to customs inspections?

The music of the fake kids' show is enough to make one want to listen to nails on a chalkboard. Or the music from 'Barney'. It would certainly sound better. And the fact that they made certain to play it for each segment after a commercial break makes it oh-so-much-better. Not.

Oh look, the team is locked up in warehouse full of toys. Surely, we can find something to make explosive out of this. Even using the powder from toy rockets, there's no fraggin' way they had enough to blow up a car. My button for suspension of disbelief just refuses to work for this one. (and seriously? who the heck gives rockets with actual explosive capability to kids? I wouldn’t. I like my house in one piece, kthanx.)

Hannibal actually attempting to act like a bear makes me headdesk violently. Just. No. There’s none of the usual banter between Murdock and BA, no grand scams from Face and not even a decent convoluted plan. This episode could’ve gone for anything but the A-Team. Actually, no. It would have been better if the script never made it to anywhere but file 13. *shudder*

[solo_sword]

OH GOD I COULD DO MORE THAN 10 FOR THIS.

1. Children of the Jedi- Yes, the whole book. This was the book that made me give up Star Wars when I was 17. After three years of obsessive fannishness, I read this one, went "MY FANDOM IS A LIE AND ALSO VERY STUPID" and okay proceeded to read Darksaber because I was hoping it had been a fluke. It wasn't. Basically, for some reason Mara's hooked up with Lando (this was later retconned like woah), Han and Leia are extremely boring, and Luke is stuck on a ship for like 18,000 pages wherein he falls in love with Callista, the consciousness of a long-dead Jedi who's trapped in a computer on board, and then eventually when one of Luke's STUDENTS decides life's not worth living without her dead cyborg boyfriend, she gives up her body for Callista to be a real girl again.

Don't question why I gave up on it.

2. The Crystal Star- Yes, the whole book again. Luke's weirdly bipolar, Han's ex-girlfriend is hanging around, the Solo kids are wee and annoying and nothing makes any damn sense. And then Luke's like, also weirdly suicidal or something. LOOK I DON'T KNOW.

3. Jacen goes all fighty (Jedi Academy trilogy: Champions of the Force)- I'm not the biggest fan of Kevin J. Anderson, and this is why: Kyp is a Jedi for like a week before apprenticing himself to a long-dead Sith lord, and then putting Luke in a coma while his dozen or so brand-new trainees stand around and go "um now what?" And then there's this whole bit that I've honestly repressed and I don't have that one book to check, but some creature things attack and Luke uses his consciousness to kill them off with a lightsaber through Jacen. Here's the thing. JACEN'S TWO.

3b. Kyp gets made a Jedi anyway (Jedi Academy trilogy: Champions of the Force)- Luke, you idiot.

4. Chewbacca's death (New Jedi Order: Vector Prime)- Okay, I get why they did it. The early books sucked, no one stayed dead, and they had to up the ante, so why not do it with a character the authors didn't really know how to write that well due to him being largely nonverabal. (Yes, I dropped out of SW again when I saw spoilers for this.) So I'm okay with that, except HE GOT KILLED BY A DAMN MOON. I swear it makes more sense in context, but HE GOT KILLED BY A DAMN MOON. And it gave Han reason to act like a total asshole for like five books.

4b. Han is a total ashole for like five books (Vector Prime, Dark Tide, Agents of Chaos)- There's grief, and there's loudly blaming your youngest son for it, and being emo and leaving your wife to have a mid-life crisis. At least he snaps out of it and is actually more IC by the end of it than he was through most of the early books.

5. The Embrace of Pain (Traitor)- I love this book, but omg. Jacen undergoes some pretty hardcore torture by the Vong, and I have to admit the bit about every hair being plucked from his body just sends chills down my spine. No. Really. Think about that. YEAH. *shudders*

[solo_sword]

HONORABLE MENTIONS, as they are not part of my girl's canon and I can therefore cheat.

6. Anakin's march on the temple (Revenge of the Sith)- You know I'm watching this movie because all of my windows in IM are suddenly filled with "ANAKIN YOU DUMBASS". As many times as I've seen it, I still keep wanting him to go "Um, can't I just kick a puppy instead? A small yappy type dog maybe?"

7. Leia kissing Luke (The Empire Strikes Back)- I still can't watch this. I cringe and flail and look away and there's often an "EWWWWWW".

Also I wonder if like, Mara knows about this, and whether she occasionally does some teasing, or if it's one of those things that's SO WEIRD even she won't dare to go there.

8. The stupid love triangle (Legacy of the Force series)-

Zekk: "Look, Jaina, I just realized that you've been right all along. We're better as friends than we would ever be as lovers. I know you've been saying it for years, but I guess part of me really didn't believe it until now."

The above quote is a good thing. Zekk spent like ten years all infatuated with Jaina and she thought of him like a brother and was all into Jag, so yay for him moving on. Except that it's followed up with things like this:

Jaina: "Zekk, sometimes you're a real pain in the neck And I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm kind of starting to like it."

Which led to me keysmashing and rubbing my temples in the middle of the coffee shop where I was reading, and THEN they bring JAG back in, and it leads to things like this:

There was even room for a speeder berth, had the office been equipped with a hatch to the outside, and Jag had filled it with exercise equipment. Today both he and Zekk were shirtless, doing chin-ups, while Jaina sat at a terminal and watched them surreptitiously.

YEAH I KNOW.

9. Jaina and Zekk become Joiners (The Dark Nest trilogy)- Troy Denning, who I normally love as he gave us Star By Star and some of the darker books in the Legacy of the Force series, decided to make me ASTOUNDINGLY UNCOMFORTABLE. So there are these bugs, called Killiks, and they get the Jedi from the Myrkr mission in SBS, and long story short, Jaina and Zekk are inducted into the hive as Killik Joiners, where they are basically joined at the brain and speak in "we" and "our" terms all the time (to the point that Zekk called Jag "our boyfriend") and it is CREEPY and DISTURBING and I think the worst part is that Jaina's one of the most independent characters in SW canon and it's just SO WRONG and OOC and she's really annoying when she's brainwashed.

10. Jacen is an idiot (Dark Nest trilogy and Legacy of the Force)- Is it spoilers at this point to say that Anakin Skywalker would smack this guy upside the head a few thousand times? I'd like to see Anakin shake Jacen till he stopped moving, actually. Jacen used to be SO FREAKING CUTE and then he just kept sliding further and further dark until it just got HARD. And watching Han and Leia through all of it was just heartbreaking.

[stocksgrrl.livejournal.com]

1. It ends.

Seriously, I racked my brain and, for the life of me, I couldn't think of anything, with the exception of perhaps the slightly off romance between Otis Amber and Crow. Other than that, I swear, this book? Is perfect.

Of course, give it a few more hours and I might have something.

[screwyoumarvel]

Two of mine are actually still open to improvement in the future, but at the moment irk me.

...actually, all of the ones involving Steve being dead are open to improvement. God love comic book heaven and its revolving door.

1. Steve and Tony's Messy Divorce, aka Civil War. I actually think Steve was fairly IC in Civil War. Intense and angry, but fairly IC. However, he was reacting to other people being the exact opposite of IC. Also, insane (See: Maria Hill sending FIGHTER JETS after him BEFORE THE SHRA PASSED. See also: "Hey, what about we clone Thor?").

2. Steve's Death. Wibble. Just wibble. Going to be arraigned for treason in restrictive gear so strong he could barely walk, and still trying to save other people, and Sharon's so pretty she takes his breath. You know. With a gun. *wibble*

3. Steve's Body Goes Wonky. They'd better tie off this damn plot thread, is all I can say. Because the Supersoldier Serum does not work that way and Brubaker's shown himself to be smart and canon-savvy enough to know it.

4. I Know! Let's Put Him Back In the Ice!. Because God knows Steve wasn't horribly traumatized by the events of the last time he got put in the ice or anything--oh wait. And there's no reason to think he would want to rest with this country's other soldiers and honored dead in Arlington or anything--oh, wait. Damn Tony.

5. Sharon Carter is Crazy, Kidnapped, and Pregnant. The lack of agency given to Sharon Carter is kind of staggering, really. Apparently just about everything she's done lately was as a result of being brainwashed by agents of Red Skull. And now she's kidnapped by Red Skull and kind of crazy and, as I said, pregnant. Except I'm not actually convinced she's actually pregnant. Even in comicstime I'm reasonably sure enough time has gone by since the last time she and Steve knocked boots she ought to be showing at least some. Especially considering her outfit of choice at the moment is skintight spandex. And her Nazi Communist kidnappers haven't said a thing.

Brubaker better be going somewhere good with this.

[sensethevisions]

How about just about ALL of season 5? Not to mention several things after that?

Gods Damn you Brad Kern!

1) So in S4, Phoebe was forced to help her sisters vanquish the Source of all Evil who was possessing HER HUSBAND. Being that it was not Cole's fault. He got tricked by the Seer because she told him that doing something like that was the only way to protect his wife and unborn son.

So, he's holding on in the Wastelands and what does she do? She goes to him, but not to help him... to tel him goodbye and that she has to get on with her life. *headdesk*

He comes back, saves her life before she gets shot dead and what does she do? Kai, see ya, bye.

Everything he did, he did to keep her and her sisters safe and they turn their backs on him. I may have taught my then very young daughter new words when that season aired.

2) Let us not forget the Mermaid plotline where Piper is having a freak out and Phoebe frakking abandons her by disappearing into the sea!! Phoebe would never abandon her sisters -- and especially when Piper is that freaked.

3) The episode that will not be named because no matter how upset or pissed Cole is? He would NEVER backhand Phoebe. Never ever.

4) The Fauxbe bangs. Those were scary. I still hold the belief it was because that wasn't the real Phoebe.

5) And when suddenly Phoebe (who earlier in her canon was the supposed heart and light-hearted one who felt everything?) cares nothing about anything except finding a Baby Daddy?

6) The sudden S8 appearance of Mary SueBillie Jenkins? WTF?!

Yeah, suffice it to say that there are good reasons why in my world most anything after S4 doesn't exist -- except Chris and Wyatt.

[cantgetnorelief.livejournal.com]

Re: #5. ASUDPOIOEKLFDSPIOUFPIEJFDSS GAH YES. *FROTH*

[ecirpnellehada.livejournal.com]

Currently, I can only think of three, and my brain is being too slow and stupid, so I'll just post those at the moment. It's a bit harder to do this for nice, compact, probably insanely edited and revised books. ;)

1. Adah doesn't understand when Nelson explains to her Kilanga concepts of being. Maybe I really am taking my own education for granted and forgetting what it's like to be 14, but Adah's supposed to be a genius. It irks me every single time I come across the chapter where she and Nelson are "talking" and this comes up. She understand it eventually, and I understand that Kingsolver wanted to get these thing out into the narrative and Adah is the only character that would have bothered to find it out, but it drives me nuts when she supposedly can't figure out that, according to Kilanga precepts, things like trees or rocks can be considered people. Maybe I'm also missing something about what a deep Southern Baptist upbringing might do; I realize I was raised in a much more open religious atmosphere than she might have, but still. She's a smart girl. It seems so unrealistic that she wouldn't be able to understand, even if she didn't agree.

2. Orleanna "justifies" her means. In one chapter, we have Orleanna explaining all the things that lead them to the point in which they stand at the end of the Africa ordeal: how we can never understand because we've never been in her shoes, how things were different when she got married so she could only be submissive to Nathan (despite the fact that she proves, when she was younger, that she was anything but a submissive type), that blah blah blah. No, Orleanna, you're just a selfish cow who finds it easier to blame others for your misfortunes than take personal responsibility, and I kind of hate you for it. I don't know if Kingsolver intended for us to totally see through her or not, but, ugh. I just want to shake her and tell her to STFU.

3. Nathan and Anatole's fight. A little one, but, for me, it's always read extremely clunky, I don't know.

[sonofmogh.livejournal.com]

Worf/Deanna Troi Hookup: No. No. No. God no.

Alexander: The first time he showed up? Yeah. Neat. His constant whining thereafter? Bleah. Though I found "Fistfuls of Data" endlessly amusing. Not because of Alexander though.

Wesley Crusher: Can't stand the guy. At all. I think my first pseudo-fan fic was about killing him off in the most humorous way possible. Sorry Emily.

Redemption: Part II Redemption Part I was all sorts of awesome. Worf! He left! He resigned! He was to do glorious battle!

And then this episode happened and it was a horrible let down. The whole Romulan blockade just bored me to tears. Toral should have died in some unspeakable way. And then all Worf had to do to return to duty was ask for it back? WTF?

And then there was this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0_70d-KVe4)

I like to pretend it was an homage to the original series.

[light-a-spark.livejournal.com]

1. Hughes dying.

Actually, this is possibly one of the best deaths in a series as there is a *point* to it. I still hate it, though. OMG HUGHES!!!

2. The end of the movie.

Ed and Al stuck in our world and heading towards WWII. Just... no!

3. Envy being a dragon. WTF?

4. Envy turning into a shrimped thingie wingie in the manga. Again, WTH?

5. Martel's death. OMG NOOOOO!!!! Poor, poor Al. I always keep hoping that this scene ends differently, but it never does.

[cantgetnorelief.livejournal.com]

OMG HUGHES. D: D: D: D: D:

That just rips me to shreds in both the manga and the anime, although I think it's the end of the anime episode, with Gracia and Elysia, and actually hearing Elysia asking why they're burying Daddy when he has a job to do, that absolutely kills me.

[thebluespirit.livejournal.com]

1. Azula using firebending to fly. WTH?

... I think that's it.

[bridge-carson.livejournal.com]

I... yeah. When I first saw freaking ROCKET POWERED AZULA I admit, I had to pause the ep so I could laugh hysterically for a good five minutes. WTF WAS THAT.

[cameronmitchell.livejournal.com]

1. Anything with Jack O'Neill post S7. RDA was bored, so I got bored of him.

2. Anything with Daniel Jackson post S5. MS became a whiny bitch, so I got bored of him.

3. Vala declaring her love for Daniel, Daniel being a complete and utter ass and then somehow she did end up kissing him. Seriously, she should have kicked him in the groin and just left to go wear out Cameron.

I'm sure there's many more, but it's late.

[senor-chado.livejournal.com]

1. Revealing that Ishiin was a Shinigami....and then going on a giant tangent arc about the Arrancar. Excuse my French, but what a fucking cocktease! This was precisely the moment I decided I wanted nothing more to do with Bleach than my current involvement and catching up with the mangas. Bad enough that they were coming off of a bullshit filler arc, but what drew me into Bleach was the "normal" characters with these "abnormal" things happening to them/around them. I was a little put off by the Soul Society arc in general, when it's less about the current characters that I loved and more about Tite Kubo doing what I call a "MY AWESOMENESS! LET ME SHOW YOU!" and just throwing "COOL SHIT" at us rather than developing his already excellent storyline. But I stuck through it, because it was still decently done. Stopped watching at the filler arc. Heard that the filler arc was done, watched again, within a few episodes, Tite gives us this AMAZING gem about Ichigo's father.

...And then goes right back to the "MY AWESOMENESS! LET ME SHOW YOU!" Okay, yeah, Arrancar. Cool. GET THE FUCK BACK TO ISHIIN!!! After he didn't within five episodes, I gave up. And now I have no idea what's even going on anymore because I DON'T CARE ANYMORE.

2. When they gave Kuukaku a prosthetic arm in the anime. SO LAME. SO STUPID. manga!Kuukaku and her stub is so awesome.

3. When Ichigo steps in because Chad can't fight the Arrancar, and Chad runs off all emo like a baby about not being strong enough. I guess I can see whyyyyy it happened, but it feels like such a slip in Chad's devotion and it's always annoyed me. Chad is so bad-ass when he's in Soul Society, and then it's like he gets back to Karakura and is a whiny little bitch about not being strong enough. But, then again, this is the point where everything started to annoy me about Bleach, so...


...There's more. But I've departed so much from Bleach that it's harder for me to remember some of the littler things. #1 and #3 covers it quite well. For me, anything past around episode 62 is a worst canon moment. XD With exceptions, gems buried deep in all of Tite's "MY AWESOME! LET ME SHOW YOU!"


...by the way, I don't think I can justly include the filler arc, since I didn't even bother watching it.

Far be it from me to criticize Shakespeare...

[withoutverona]

Except I will. Some of this isn't in the movie, which I think is very close to perfect. (And I'm way too lazy to rewatch it right now and prove myself wrong.)

Also, I know the play isn't a tragedy if this stuff doesn't happen. Also I know there's some 1595 context that makes some of this make sense. But still, with that in mind:

1. Friar effing Laurence at the very end. Okay, so there is this 13-year-old girl he has married off against her family's wishes lying on a bier where she was posing as DEAD, with her dead husband feet away.

And what does this servant of God say? "Okay, I need to run. Follow me and I'll make you a nun! Bye!" No, you know, personal responsibility or anything, or sincere offer to help the child.

No wonder she offs herself.

2. For that matter, the entire "Juliet pretends she's dead" thing. Yeah, stupid plan. I think most people who can spell could come up with better choices for Juliet at that point. Saying "Um, Dad, I kinda got married" would have done it.

3. Romeo has a broken moral compass. So he kills Tybalt. Who, granted, was asking for it. And he gets all angsty. And we next see him a couple hours later, when he is ... intensely upset, of course, because he has to leave his snugglebunny. I don't think he ever expresses any deep grief over having taken a human life, except inasmuch as it keeps him away from Juliet.

4. Classism yay! According to the notes in the back of my edition of the play, the Arthur Brooke play Shakespeare was stealing from has the Friar exonerated, the Nurse banished, and the guy who sells Romeo the poison hanged. Clearly this makes sense.

5. And one from the movie. I've never liked that damn Cardigans song.

Re: Far be it from me to criticize Shakespeare...

[cantgetnorelief.livejournal.com]

*coughs* I've never liked that song either.

[not-a-mused.livejournal.com]

1. Ben Scheer and the hotel room. I have a very, very wide comfort zone; it takes a lot to make me squeamish. But this scene makes me squirm like you would not believe. It's absolutely the most heartbreaking thing, and you don't know whether to shake Cal for just submitting to Scheer's advances, for not fighting him off or being more insistent, or hug him for being so damn confused. I just remember feeling so damn relieved when Scheer just ends up passing out from being too drunk before he can get too far.

2. The overly mysterious nature of exactly what Cal's genitalia is like. Maybe it's just the fact that I'm annoyed by the ambiguity because I'm RPing Cal, maybe it's just a really weird thing to want to know, but I hate how you never get a real clear picture of how Cal's crazybits work. There are little clues here and there (you know he can have vaginal sex, you know that his "crocus" can get hard enough that it's noticeable), but it's otherwise extremely vague, which baffles me, as Eugenides does not have an issue with being visceral about other things (see #1 0.o). I have spent way too much time researching this sort of thing in an attempt to cover up the holes left in the text, which is annooooyyyying.

3. Chapter Eleven never having a proper name. The Object never has one, either, but we get a reason for that. Cal wants to protect her identity (although, and this is another quirk, he has no problem ousting her brother, and, if anyone really wanted to find out, it wouldn't be that hard to work from him); okay, fine. Also, giving her a title like the Object helps establish the myth of her, mystifying her, and making her this bigger-than-ones-self deal. There feels like there should be no reason to mystify Cal's older brother in this fashion. I read somewhere that Chapter Eleven refers to how he bankrupts the family company. From a reader perspective, I didn't mind. From an RP perspective, though, it's very annoying not knowing whether Milton and Tessie were just on crack when they named their first born or if it's just a nickname that Cal is using, although the text doesn't mention why he would ever do that.

4. Marius W.C. Grimes. Marius is an old, black gentleman who sits on the sidewalk near the first location of the Stephanides' diner, near the area that the '67 riots would occur. Marius is one of the very few characters in the book who Cal interacts with who, after that chapter of his life has passed, is never mentioned again and that bothers me so much. I liked Marius quite a lot; I like how he called Callie Cleopatra and was cryptic and introduced a lot of interesting race dynamics to the book. As soon as the riots happen, it's like Marius never happened, you could have cut him out of the book, and no one would be none the wiser. I've only read the book once, so maybe I just need to be able to deconstruct it more, but, man, that annoys me. XD

5. The gap between age 15 and 46. Cal is telling his story as a middle aged man looking back. He goes all the way back to his grandparent immigrating from Turkey, through his parents, to himself and his discovery of his hermaphroditic nature at the age of 14. He spares very few details. The book ends when Cal is 15, his father has died, and he stands to take the place in the doorway as a Greek Orthodox tradition. There is a strain of a story of him finding love at 46, while living in Germany, but there is nothing in between, and very few references to how he got to where he is in the narrative storyline. Just a big fat 30 year gap of stuff that is apparently, none of our business, but the 50 or so odd years before his birth are. WHUT? Supposedly, this is Cal's story, but Eugenides puts so much into the story of Cal's grandparents that it annoys me Creative Writing major to no end how poorly balanced things are between all the stories he's supposedly attempting to tell. Cal gets so shafted as a main character; it reads like Eugenides got lazy writing about him and then decided to not bother.

*SIGH*

[stocksgrrl.livejournal.com]

...I used "annoy" a lot through all of this, wow.

[ktarian-wildman.livejournal.com]

1. Chakotay/Seven
What the hell were the writers on when they thought that this pairing would be a good one. Aside from the fact that this pairing came out of nowhere in the finale, this pairing is just on several levels of wrong since Chakotay's old enough to be Seven's father.

*shudders at C/7*

I think C/7 takes up my 1-5 actually.

[sith_happened]

OMG STAR WARS. Since I have two characters, I will break down the wtf by prequel and original/EU. Mwhahaha.

1. I say I love you by stalking you from childhood. WHO TOLD LUCAS HE COULD WRITE ROMANCE?! Please, please make him stop. Included in this is the worst pick up line ever, "Your skin is smooooooooth," which makes me cringe in horror every damn time, a break-up scene where the one saying "no, we can't!" is wearing a black leather corset, and the part where being pregnant apparently makes Padme's brains leak out her ears.

2. Jar-Jar Frakking Binks. Die in a fire, Jar-Jar. No, it doesn't make it better that your vote in the Senate giving Palpatine emergency powers pretty much doomed the universe to the dark side. I want to slap you every time you open your mouth.

3. We will bring down the Jedi through...politics! Mwahahahah! Really? Really? I'm a political science major and I still couldn't follow the thought process that went into this plan.

4. Oh, I'm dark side now? Guess I'll go KILL EVERYONE I KNOW. WTF ANAKIN YOU DUMBASS.

5. Quick! To the prosthetics department! Does every major battle have to prove it's major-ness by having someone lose a limb, George? Really? And wtf with the Emperor's amazing degenerating skin condition. Not only did it make no sense, it looks incredibly lame. Bah.

[tatooine-doofus.livejournal.com]

And the original/extended universe part!

1. Luke/Leia Um. No. This is what I point at when George is all "of course I had it planned out! In that case, you are a sick, sick man, George.

2. Luke in most of the early EU. "I'm whiny!" "I can't make decisions!" "I'm in love with a chick who lives in a computer!" No wonder it took you until you were forty to get married, Luke. I would've slapped you waaaay before then.

3. "Oh, crap, they have kids! Let's have 'em kidnapped!" Dear authors, I know you wanted to play with the grown ups, but come up with another plotline. Jesus.

4. WTF crappy new characters. Ancient Jedi who lives in a computer. Han Solo's evil cousin who has an evil beard so you know that he is evil. The CREEPY ASS BUG THINGS.

5. The thing with the guy in the Legacy of the Force series. Because seriously?! In that family? You'd think they'd be just a little twitchier when some starts heading towards gray and homicidal waters. I wanted to set him on fire from book three or so, and I used to love him.

[itsjustlanguage.livejournal.com]

1. These Are The Voyages (TATV (http://www.tv.com/star-trek-enterprise/show/2498/tatv-considered-a-fan-favorite/topic/1908-820251/msgs.html))

The show suffered with Bermaga at the helm, but in season 4 they turned over the showrunner duties to Manny Coto and everything got better. Then Bermaga decided that they wanted to write the season 4 finale, which became them series finale when ENT was canceled. The episode is about Riker facing a moral dilemma during the TNG episode "The Pegasus" and Troi suggests he go to the holodeck and play a simulation of Jonathon Archer's last mission. Now, I love Riker and Troi, but it's been years since the last season of TNG and Jonathon Frakes and Marina Sirtis look nothing like they did back then. Also, "The Pegasus" was a really serious episode, but in TATV, he's goofing around on the holodeck and doesn't even match the serious tone from "The Pegasus."

Add the fact that it's been ten years from the first ENT voyage and no one has been promoted and any character development from the previous seasons has been ignored. They even bring in Shran, a fan favorite, but they have this weird backstory about him becoming an outlaw, which doesn't make sense. Oh, and then they kill someone for no good reason.

2. The ending of "Zero Hour"
After defeating the Xindi, Enterprise returns to Earth minus Captain Archer, who appears to have died in the final mission. There's no response from Earth, so Tucker and Mayweather take a shuttlepod down to San Francisco -- and are fired upon by a WWII era plane. Meanwhile, Archer wakes up in a Nazi prison camp with this guy (http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/3x24/zerohour_765.jpg) looking at him. It's a final parting gift that Bermaga left for their new showrunner, who had to figure out how to get them out of this mess at the beginning of the next season.

Oh, and ENT hadn't been renewed for another season when they filmed this episose, so there was a very strong possibility that this could have been the series finale.

2. A Night In Sickbay

You know it's bad when you can abbreviate the title as "ANiS." Archer takes his dog with him on a diplomatic mission on another planet and Porthos pees on a sacred tree, offending the aliens. Then Porthos contracts some deadly parasite that starts shutting down his brain functions and there's no cure. The title comes from Archer spending the night in sickbay to be closer to Porthos, who is hooked up on monitoring equipment while he hovers near death.

Somehow, they throw in Archer having sexual fantasies about T'Pol while his best friend is dying, and instead of acting diplomatically, he refuses to apologize to the aliens for the incident even though they're willing to cut off all ties with Earth. In the end, Archer goes through a bizarre apology ritual (http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x05/nightinsickbay_578.jpg) and Dr. Phlox saves Porthos by replacing the dog's pituitary gland with that of a Calrissian chameleon.

4. "Precious Cargo" or Trip Rescues An Alien Princess

Padma Lakshmi from "Top Chef" guest stars an alien princess who is kidnapped and gets rescued by Trip Tucker, but in the process they're marooned on an alien planet. I enjoy seeing Padma on "Top Chef" but there was absolutely no chemistry whatsoever between her and Connor Trinneer. The last time I checked, she doesn't even mention this part of her acting career on her web site bio.

5. "Raijin"

Archer rescues a sexy slave girl from an alien bazaar and she steals her hypnotic powers to steal data on humans.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

[itsjustlanguage.livejournal.com]

And because my original was too long to post in one comment...

Just missing the cut...

-- "Extinction," where an alien virus turns Archer, Reed and Hoshi into aliens (http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/3x03/extinction_213.jpg).

-- In four years of Enterprise, Travis Mayweather gets less lines than he did on a guest-star appearance on "JAG." I think Archer's dog got more screen time than Mayweather.

-- They set up a Malcolm/Hoshi ship in season one, but it turns into more of an Archer/Hoshi ship by season four. I'll admit that this had more to do with stuff going on behind the scenes with a pair of actors who may not have gotten along. I'm not naming names, but...

-- Hoshi's hair. In the words of her costar, they gave her a style that made her "look like a little Korean boy."

-- T'Pol and the catsuits. They just couldn't let her wear a normal uniform like everyone else.

[likeguidelines.livejournal.com]

*rubs hands together gleefully*

1. Heart. In. A. Box. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww. And it's still beating? How does that even make sense?

2. You're a pirate. He's a pirate. She's a pirate. EVERYONE's a pirate! The first movie? Made of awesome. Second movie? Made of waaay to much slime and special effects and missing a little something we call "coherent plot."

3. Killing James Norrington. Boooooooo.

4. Oh, look, Calypso is...really, really, REALLY TALL. If you're going to rely on special effects, it helps if the audience isn't going, "wow, fake."

5. The wank that came out of after-credits scene in PotC 3. Just because Elizabeth was waiting for Will in a dress didn't mean she'd spent the intervening time knitting socks and pining. Jesus.

[solo_sword]

Just because Elizabeth was waiting for Will in a dress didn't mean she'd spent the intervening time knitting socks and pining. Jesus.

My first thought was "easy access". Look, it had been a while.